Thank you for this excellent report which confirms what I already thought but had no proof.
Again I have no proof but I think the increase in the extent of fires in more recent years is due to human encroachment into areas which are vulnerable to fire anyway. I suspect that many of the fires are due to human activity either directly or indirectly.
Related to your point: Various states have made big efforts to suppress the harvesting of timber. So, one can find evidence of environmental groups like the Sierra Club agreeing with logging interests that we should do something about thinning out forests, but then the parties can't agree on how to do it. The Sierra Club and others just hate logging, and they have had success in getting state governments to make it harder for commercial interests to go in to the forests.
I have not written about that, because I'd need to more research, but it is hard not to think that enabling some timber harvesting could be part of the program for managing forests over the long term.
There you go again, bringing in data! At the moment climate change is a religious movement because other religious movements around the notion of a supreme being are no longer in vogue. Whether we can get through this period of foolishness about our control over huge natural forces remains to be seen. The planet obviously has forces not fully modeled well with complex feedback loops not fully appreciated. But we see the effort in https://arstechnica.com/science/2006/02/2815/ where they walk the fine line of those forces.
The forces of anti-progress are tied into climate change. Forest management is needed only because we are trying to control nature. One think society ought to benefit by using some of nature's bounty if we are going to intervene. But we need to improve that. NM has seen disasters as a result of controlled burns that Western controlled.
One of many things I got out of reading Cronon's "Changes in the Land" (1983) and Charles Mann's "1491," is that peoples, including "indigenous peoples," have histories going back thousands of years in actively managing forests. Maybe tens of thousands of years.
That said, one can imagine that scaling up a forest management program to encompass a continent would make for an ambitious affair. And a review of the media reveals tension between the Sierra Club types and logging/timber interests. The former seem intent on diminishing the role of the latter in any program to manage forests. That seems like a big mistake.
Thank you for this excellent report which confirms what I already thought but had no proof.
Again I have no proof but I think the increase in the extent of fires in more recent years is due to human encroachment into areas which are vulnerable to fire anyway. I suspect that many of the fires are due to human activity either directly or indirectly.
Many thanks.
Related to your point: Various states have made big efforts to suppress the harvesting of timber. So, one can find evidence of environmental groups like the Sierra Club agreeing with logging interests that we should do something about thinning out forests, but then the parties can't agree on how to do it. The Sierra Club and others just hate logging, and they have had success in getting state governments to make it harder for commercial interests to go in to the forests.
I have not written about that, because I'd need to more research, but it is hard not to think that enabling some timber harvesting could be part of the program for managing forests over the long term.
There you go again, bringing in data! At the moment climate change is a religious movement because other religious movements around the notion of a supreme being are no longer in vogue. Whether we can get through this period of foolishness about our control over huge natural forces remains to be seen. The planet obviously has forces not fully modeled well with complex feedback loops not fully appreciated. But we see the effort in https://arstechnica.com/science/2006/02/2815/ where they walk the fine line of those forces.
The forces of anti-progress are tied into climate change. Forest management is needed only because we are trying to control nature. One think society ought to benefit by using some of nature's bounty if we are going to intervene. But we need to improve that. NM has seen disasters as a result of controlled burns that Western controlled.
Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
One of many things I got out of reading Cronon's "Changes in the Land" (1983) and Charles Mann's "1491," is that peoples, including "indigenous peoples," have histories going back thousands of years in actively managing forests. Maybe tens of thousands of years.
That said, one can imagine that scaling up a forest management program to encompass a continent would make for an ambitious affair. And a review of the media reveals tension between the Sierra Club types and logging/timber interests. The former seem intent on diminishing the role of the latter in any program to manage forests. That seems like a big mistake.